Terence Eden

@Edent@mastodon.social

August 1st - Googler asks the community if XSLT should be removed from the HTML living standard.
github.com/whatwg/html/issues/

Respondents overwhelmingly reject the suggestion.

August 6th - Google starts work on removing XSLT from Chrome.
issues.chromium.org/issues/435

August 14th - Googler sends PR to remove XSLT from the standard.
github.com/whatwg/html/pull/11

Like, I don't have a particular view of whether this is a good idea or not. But these sham community engagement exercises piss me off.

August 18, 2025 at 9:11:22 AM
Web

As a little bonus treat, here's an older discussion about Google removing XSLT from Blink.

Most of the arguments (on both sides) remain the same.

groups.google.com/a/chromium.o

The date of that discussion? 2014!

Muting this thread now.

@ me directly if you have something interesting to say about the subject.

(Still longing for BSky's reply-gating feature to make it over here!)

Makes room for more AI! Rejoice!

why do you think that issue is "community engagement"?

@swick @Edent I think it is, but that the community being engaged is smaller than it seems. Notice how the person who opened it tagged four other people who all expressed agreement. Therefore the community being engaged agreed.

Seems to me it’s more like a city council meeting where people can present comments, but only the council members’ opinions actually matter.

I wonder if anyone from w3c was involved and/or gave any suggestion about the matter.

One single project (corp-owned) is about to make a major change which may affect the entirety of the www. Ok not 100%... 70? 80? Still seems a lot.

If Netscape made the same in early 2000's they would be ripped apart. When Microsoft pushed on ActiveX, the web community let them do by themselves (last time I saw an activex was like 6 months ago)

Just my worthless opinion.

The W3C isn't involved in the living standard and hasn't been for some time.

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