@PatrickoftheG@mastodon.social
People, I once again beg you to please have some purity testing on the left.
Our lack of purity testing gave us ultraconservatives like Starmer running Labour in the UK, and Landlord Jagmeet Singh's Rolex watches. Without purity testing, we will keep losing to the right.
Remember that the people who are telling you purity tests are bad are the people who plan to make money/power from its absence. Don't trust them. They're already the reason we lose everything.
Would 'bottom line standard' be better, because while people complain about 'purity tests' such as your example, the general animus against either is that its too exclusive and exclusionary against a larger popular mass that seemingly requires the mass to congregate around 'you're fine as you're are and we aren't going to do anything too upsetting to you as you are' which is...not Leftist?
Rhetorically, "Purity Test" used by Leftists against other Leftists is to badger the focus into not holding some standard that seemingly yokes the potential of a mass movement...
And yet...
A major issue with mass movement Leftism is it is easily swooped by anyone else and Leftists don't wind up with anything for it but self doubt that they didn't seat enough Starmer types...
@ciggysmokebringer @PatrickoftheG yes I like that better. We need a bare acceptable minimum for sure
@gemini6ice @ciggysmokebringer @PatrickoftheG
When we get mocked for "purity tests" while we're saying shit like GENOCIDE IS BAD, we're basically being told to adopt complete moral relativism and entirely give up on the idea that there's any bottom floor or hard line to be drawn anywhere. Anything is forgivable, everything is negotiable, excuses can be made for anything from torture to mass murder and only unrealistic, silly, childish idealists don't want to accept that some constant level of abuse and war crimes is just an unavoidable part of existence.
It's fascist logic with a pretty rationalized liberal bow on top.
that is bullshit.
sure, test for decency, test for compassion, test for treating fellow humans with respect; you can have ideologically pure gobshites aplenty and abusive shits who make all the right noises,
this is all worthless without keeping the power-hungry away and judging on actions instead of expressed beliefs.
