Kim Stanley Robinson is on Futureverse and kind of just in time for a dose of pragmatic positivity.
""(T)he climate deniers who are left are crawling towards the exits. They will no longer say it except in certain sheltered media spaces of their own, echo chambers where no one's challenging them."
Granted, he also says that at this point climate utopia is avoiding the destruction of the biosphere, but ... pragmatic!
Here's part one, and please enjoy!
https://www.futureverse.earth/p/ep-4-kim-stanley-robinson-part-1#details
Futureverse
Ep. 4: Kim Stanley Robinson (Part 1)Listen now (21min) | Molly and Ramanan speak with Kim Stanley Robinson, the author of The Ministry of the Future.